Dads on Books

MUSIC 0:01
i'm mike walker, i'm david patrick, and we are dads on books, Dad's on books, two minutes later, but we are dads on books, we're addicted to books, we sit on books and we even talk about books, welcome to another episode of, dads on books

MIKE 0:22
well, hello david

DAVID 0:23
hey mike, how are you?

MIKE 0:24
i'm doing great, how are you?

DAVID 0:26
i'm doing great as well

MIKE 0:28
well, that's peach keen

DAVID 0:29
mm-hmm

MIKE 0:30
welcome to dads on books, we are here to talk about another book and that book is...

DAVID 0:36
fancy Nancy

MIKE 0:37
fancy Nancy, we

DAVID 0:40
how's it gonna say which is French for fancy Nancy?

MIKE 0:43
why?

DAVID 0:44
you will understand the French jokes very very soon, i promise you dear

MIKE 0:48
unless you've already read any fancy Nancy book and then you'll totally

DAVID 0:53
and should we give them time to stop laughing or should we just...

MIKE 0:56
oh no,

DAVID 0:57
okay

MIKE 0:57
no, we'll just keep it, keep it rolling, y'know

DAVID 0:59
let's keep it rolling kids okay so, i was trying to remember how we chose this book and i have no idea why

MIKE 1:07
hahahahaha

DAVID 1:08
hahahahaha

MIKE 1:09
well i do do

DAVID 1:11
you really?

MIKE 1:11
I do, because i was editing an episode in which we talked about this, which is probably the one from last week and you had said maybe you were talking to monika, but you had been trying to figure out like, ideas of something to do and monika said, well what about fancy Nancy or something and you were like, oh yeah that's a great idea and then you tried to find it, and then i think the last place you looked was on the bookshelf where you keep the books that we've talked about doing before

DAVID 1:45
yes!

MIKE 1:47
you were like, oh wait, i already have that up there, how cool?

DAVID 1:51
so the bad news is i said i don't remember the origin story, the good news is i do because that was it, i just forgot that that was it and that you knew

MIKE 1:58
that's

DAVID 2:01
awesome yes i a shelf where we have the books that we've done in order and then i have just following those books is all the books we thought about doing as you said yes, i forgot that it was there, i forgot that we already had decided or i had that this would be a candidate, so when monika mentioned it decision was made and you you've read it before with your girls is that right?

MIKE 2:23
well i have read fancy Nancy before but there are many, many, many of fancy Nancy and when i went and found this book i realized i have not read this one, it was not in my pile of books, so either it got sold at a garage sale or we never had it

DAVID 2:44
well, the copy i have is a scholastic one i'm starting to realize that you know scholastic prints tons of books their book fairs i guess and it doesn't mean that it was originally published for them, it means that they brought it into their fold and i still don't know if the girls bought this at a book fair at their school or if someone gave to us, i really have no idea. the origin story of the book going into the patric house but i do remember reading this to the girls a lot and if we want to start diving into the book right now i can tell you my impression of that absolutely okay so now that we are doing this podcast and we've done episodes there is a pattern i'm noticing and that pattern with me started with big words for little people which was episode i believe for

MIKE 3:35
or

DAVID 3:36
us, did you remember my initial impression of that book?

MIKE 3:39
yes it's a bit messy,

DAVID 3:41
yes cluttered messy etc or dare i say fancy.

MIKE 3:47
i don't know if fancy is the right for that one.

DAVID 3:50
well i think in this case it is because when i started reading this book i went to the very first spread the first two pages and there are four words which are in this order i love being fancy and then the rest of it is entirely filled with tons of colors tons of clutter it's our protagonist fancy nancy it's her bedroom there's stuff all over the place and it's frilly and full and fuzzy and other f words

MIKE 4:24
well frankly david.

DAVID 4:26
funnily enough mike.

MIKE 4:27
i beg to fiffr.

DAVID 4:31
frilly

MIKE 4:34
frilly frilly francy francy

DAVID 4:37
exactly.

MIKE 4:37
um you said the first

DAVID 4:40
spread? hmm

MIKE 4:41
do you not have a spread on the pages before that that's super clean and un cluttered?

DAVID 4:47
why mike why do you keep anticipate where i'm going?

MIKE 4:52
oh my gosh go on

DAVID 4:54
i thought this was the first spread and maybe there's a thing with memory and you remember something but it becomes a story in your head and over time it changes and it's different than

MIKE 5:06
And

DAVID 5:06
i simply

MIKE 5:06
this is why in law, when you're trying to decide if you should believe somebody when they're on the stand, you should only partially believe them, because everybody remembers things differently. Because your head, your brain fills in little gaps that you forgot about. And this is a perfect case in point, and I'm not a lawyer, so don't call me for your legal woes.

DAVID 5:31
That's awesome. I was going to call you for my legal woes, because I do have a few legal woes, but that's for a different podcast. Yeah, so yeah, so whoa, so my memory is this is the first spread, and I thought it was. And so I'm sitting here reading, and I... when was this book published? I asked myself all that. So I flipped back, and love and behold, as you mentioned, the real first spread is Nancy's bedroom, very uncluttered, and it has the copyright and the date and the "is" been in the first printing, which I was looking for. And I thought, wait a second, this is her room, and it says, this is my room before I made it fancy. Literally, don't remember ever

MIKE 6:15
this.

DAVID 6:15
seeing

And...

MIKE 6:18
he is, yes.

DAVID 6:19
Well, and this one says Copyright 2006, and it says this edition first printing, January 2015. but the point is, at first I did not like this, but I liked it very quickly, because as you go further into the story, it's very cute. It's very funny, and the other memory I have is reading this with my girls, and all of us loving it.

MIKE 6:39
Absolutely. It's a lot of fun.

DAVID 6:41
It is.

MIKE 6:42
How can you not love fancy

DAVID 6:45
Exactly. But, that taste of "ooh, this is too frilly and fancy, I'm not gonna like it." It stayed for a while, and then as I went into the book, I started noticing, like, all these great picture books, there are tons of details that you keep discovering new things if you pay attention closely enough.

MIKE 7:02
Absolutely.

DAVID 7:03
And, with any good picture book or any good book, they're also different, like, ah, I don't know what to call it. A joke mechanism or a thing that they do that is very, very funny, that's repeated throughout, and I know you know what I'm talking about with this book, so tell us.

MIKE 7:18
I don't

DAVID 7:18
know. You don't know! No, it's the blank as the fancy way of saying blank.

MIKE 7:23
Oh, gotcha.

DAVID 7:25
Yeah, so...

MIKE 7:25
I'm bad. I was only half paying attention. You threw me for a loop when you were like, "Oh, and there's so many things going on in the pictures." And I was like, "Oh, wait! I've got to find one!"

DAVID 7:38
Oh,

MIKE 7:38
a... That

DAVID 7:38
you were

MIKE 7:39
I can go, "Oh, so feepy."

DAVID 7:41
So you were looking in the pictures and all that stuff, and I think David's talking back there some...

MIKE 7:44
Right, and, uh, what?

DAVID 7:46
Later, because I'm recording.

MIKE 7:47
Exactly. There's lots of dolls. But, yes, actually, I do, I kind of was looking for something on that first page that bothered me which was her bookshelf. Not the first, the second, she's after she's been

DAVID 8:03
When she

MIKE 8:03
decorated.

DAVID 8:03
has fancified her room.

MIKE 8:05
When she has fancified the room.

DAVID 8:07
Okay.

MIKE 8:07
I thought it was strange, "A," that there was Christmas tinsel on the shelf.

Because it doesn't seem like it's Christmas time at all in this book. And then the second thing that bothered me was, the stuffed animals are on the top shelf.

DAVID 8:25
"Oh,

MIKE 8:26
why are they on the top shelf?" "Maybe there's more on her bed that I just missed." I don't know, but it just kind of was like, maybe stuffed animals aren't fancy enough.

DAVID 8:37
Ooh, she's outgrown

MIKE 8:39
them. Maybe.

DAVID 8:40
Maybe. Because she's very fancy.

MIKE 8:41
She's very faancey. And they're up high because she's outgrown them.

DAVID 8:46
Nice. That's it? Oh, that's a good point.

MIKE 8:48
Yeah.

DAVID 8:49
So let me ask you something. You said that that initially bothered you. Does it still bother you? Did you find a resolution? Did you move on?

MIKE 8:55
It's still bothersome.

DAVID 8:57
Okay.

MIKE 8:57
But

DAVID 8:57
Because I have--

MIKE 8:58
now that we've talked about that, about her growth, and growing out of it, maybe that makes a little bit of sense.

DAVID 9:08
Okay. But I have some other interpretations.

MIKE 9:10
Tell me.

DAVID 9:11
So, the Christmas tinsel, it looks like it's in a green box, and it's either on top of or behind a box that says Magic for Kids. There's a bottle of something. There's a thing that says beads. A bottle. So, she, as fancy Nancy, as we will discover in this book. And you can just tell from this first spread with her fancified bedroom that she has all kinds of accessories and fancy stuff. And that's simply where and how she stores it. She's someone who would store all of these things. Here's the Christmas stuff. Here's the Easter stuff. Here's the Passover stuff. Here's the--I mean, she probably celebrates my mom would send us cards, like Happy Columbus Day.

Nancy

MIKE 9:50
Any

DAVID 9:50
strikes

MIKE 9:50
reason

DAVID 9:50
me.

MIKE 9:50
to send a card?

DAVID 9:51
And Nancy, maybe not yet, but when she grows up, she will be sending people cards for Arbor Day, and she has an entire Arbor Day box and all those things.

MIKE 10:01
Absolutely.

DAVID 10:02
And the idea of putting stuffies on a bookshelf, we finally did that. think it was for Lucy, one of my girls, because they have so many stuffies and they wanted to see them all. And I don't know if you know Mike. Ooh, I love books.

MIKE 10:14
Really?

DAVID 10:15
Yeah...

MIKE 10:15
That is a shh- Talking news to me!

DAVID 10:29
But then I realized, oh, organizing stuff is a good thing no matter how and where you do it. But I also thought maybe stuffies on the top shelf is a good idea because they tend to be lighter and therefore it's safer to put them on the top, instead of on the bottoms and the bookshelf won't fall. I'm sure I'm reading way too much into

MIKE 10:48
Probably, my thought was that all of these empty boxes of lights and things could have been on the top shelf, you know, the whatever Christmas tinsel that's pretty light. And then you could still reach the stuffies. I would be more into that as a aesthetic storage system.

DAVID 11:09
Really?

MIKE 11:09
But that's just me.

DAVID 11:10
Okay. I love it. Oh, and also,

MIKE 11:13
Yes.

DAVID 11:14
no, that's tinsel, though. She does have Christmas lights out on her mirror, so

MIKE 11:17
though she does. I-

DAVID 11:18
Those are all your rent.

MIKE 11:19
yeah,

DAVID 11:19
Mm-hmm, yeah. Okay, let's dig more into the book as we spend this much time on every page. We will be here until next week. Only Tuesday. This

MIKE 11:29
is NDD.

DAVID 11:30
So, as the book goes on again, tons of hilarious details. Back to one of the devices. Now this goes back to illustrated by and written by two different people. What came first? How much did they collaborate? This is a question for one day if and when we get Robin Price, Glacier and Or Jane O'Connor on the podcast. Because there are so many fun things that go back and forth between the writing and the illustrations.

MIKE 11:57
Mm-hmm.

DAVID 11:57
But the device is, my favorite color is Fuchsia. That's a fancy way of saying purple throughout the book. That's a fancy way of saying, and it's very funny and very fun.

MIKE 12:07
I've got a stupendous idea. it's a fancy word for great. I just stole that from Nancy.

DAVID 12:15
That was straight from the book. I can't tell. We should do a game show. Is it from the book or is it fake? But we should not.

MIKE 12:25
Yeah.

DAVID 12:27
Yeah. I love those little things. And also, as you know, Jopel Françaix, which is a fancy and French way of saying,

MIKE 12:33
way,

DAVID 12:35
I speak

MIKE 12:36
French. Wait.

DAVID 12:39
So it's like for example I like to write my name with a pen that has a plume that's a fancy way of saying feather. And not only is it fancy, but plume is actually how you say feather in French, which I

MIKE 12:49
love. A plume de nom. Nome de plan.

DAVID 12:52
Nome de plume. Yes, name of the feather or

MIKE 12:54
name of the feather.

DAVID 12:55
Exactly. At a very next sentence is "and I can't wait to learn French because everything in French sounds fancy."

MIKE 13:03
Doesn't

DAVID 13:03
Yeah, wait. It does.

MIKE 13:04
Webby. Moving forward, I thought it was very funny that she decided to teach being fancy to her family.

DAVID 13:14
Oh yes. So

MIKE 13:14
it's fancy, Nancy's family. Fancy. Hang on.

DAVID 13:19
[laughter]

MIKE 13:21
That was not so

DAVID 13:23
fancy. But that was a fancy

MIKE 13:24
tone.

DAVID 13:24
dial

MIKE 13:25
Why, wait. It is.

DAVID 13:28
I bet you're putting sound effects in already and I'm like, "Dude, do that and post me and come down."

MIKE 13:32
Come on.

DAVID 13:32
Come on now.

MIKE 13:34
Right.

DAVID 13:34
I love it.

MIKE 13:35
Nope.

DAVID 13:35
But yeah, she does the lessons to teach. And while you're bringing that up,

MIKE 13:38
Yep.

DAVID 13:38
as she's doing that lesson, she's wearing ballet gear and millions of accessories and she's holding a fan. She has a lay around her neck. Fancy stuff, as the label says there, and, again, with the palette. Her family, they are palettes of muted shades of blue and gray and while mom is wearing a yellow shirt, it's almost a faded yellow t-shirt. So her family needs lessons on being fancy.

MIKE 14:06
Absolutely. They are not fancy, fancy family.

DAVID 14:09
At all.

MIKE 14:10
But, soon they are.

DAVID 14:12
Yes. They will be fancy soon, because they are willing to learn from Nancy on how to be fancy. At her little sister, this family is Nancy, her little sister, and her parents, who I don't think ever has a name in this book.

MIKE 14:24
No.

DAVID 14:25
I love her little sister because she's trying to be fancy and I didn't notice until now that... All these pages where Nancy is teaching them to be fancy, her little sister is trying to imitate Nancy's pose exactly and it's so cute.

MIKE 14:39
Absolutely. That's always the little one trying to be like the big one.

DAVID 14:45
Mm-hmm.

MIKE 14:46
Blah.

DAVID 14:46
Cute. We have to give her a name. What should we name her?

MIKE 14:49
I don't know. I'm looking at actually the book that we actually have, and even there, it has no name for fancy Nancy's sister. So, while we're doing this, you keep talking. I'm gonna find her name.

DAVID 15:03
I love it. We are such multitaskers. So as the lessons continue, she basically fancifies her family. the next page has her mom and dad and their muted shades of gray and yellow holding different war grobes, which are darker shades of gray and black and red. And Nancy comes galloping in, flying in, carrying all kinds of accessories, beads, bobbles, hair stuff, tinsel. Ooh, the Christmas tinsel box is in this, I just noticed.

MIKE 15:30
Yes, it is.

DAVID 15:31
"Bag-O-Boes", which is Irish for bag of bows, silk, flowers, exmasse ornaments. She's gonna fancify her family with all of this stuff, and it's really super fun.

MIKE 15:43
Absolutely, it's very fun. And JoJo, or Josephine Jane, Clancy, is better known as Nancy's younger sister.

DAVID 15:53
Oh, that's awesome. Well, you first said JoJo, I thought we need to name O. She is named that, 'cause you were doing research.

MIKE 15:59
I was.

DAVID 16:01
But JoJo great name for her.

MIKE 16:03
That is a great name for her. It's not too fancy.

DAVID 16:06
No.

MIKE 16:06
But Josephine Jane is fancy.

DAVID 16:10
a fancy way of saying JoJo.

MIKE 16:12
Yes.

DAVID 16:13
But JoJo's definitely JoJo. She's totally a JoJo.

MIKE 16:15
Totally.

DAVID 16:16
She's tro. JoJo, wait, what?

MIKE 16:18
Trey JoJo?

DAVID 16:19
Wait. We? Wait. So, as the family continues to fancify, then they get fancified. And dad is wearing a top hat and a fun green mascot. And JoJo. Another favorite JoJo spread. She is in the background, and she is sticking her tongue out of herself in the mirror. And I just love JoJo. She's awesome.

MIKE 16:38
She is.

She reminds me of looking at her in that picture looking at herself. I think the guitar player from the go goes.

DAVID 16:50
Yes.

MIKE 16:51
I don't know. Like, all of a sudden I was just like, wait, the short brown hair.

DAVID 16:56
Jane Wilden. Jane

MIKE 16:57
Hey.

DAVID 16:57
Wilden.

MIKE 16:57
There you go. And this is JoJo. Oh. Josephine Jane. Have we just discovered something, or have I just made it up?

DAVID 17:06
Oh.

My goodness.

Well, it's funny when you mention the go goes, because she, your right, is in that particular picture. She has, you know, her short kind of spiky-ish black hair, which is a lot like Jane Wilden. But she also has a hair, Edlin. She also has a hair band with a flower on, I mean, yeah.

MIKE 17:34
And

DAVID 17:34
You're

MIKE 17:34
then

DAVID 17:34
on

MIKE 17:34
I

DAVID 17:34
the-

MIKE 17:34
look in, in the foreground at, uh, Mom.

DAVID 17:38
Mm-hmm.

MIKE 17:38
Uh, Mom Clancy. And not that she looks like Belinda Carlisle, but I could see Belinda Carlisle from, from the, uh, 80's

DAVID 17:48
go.

MIKE 17:48
go

DAVID 17:48
Yes.

MIKE 17:49
Wearing something fancy like that.

DAVID 17:51
Yeah.

MIKE 17:51
Maybe.

DAVID 17:53
We are onto something,

MIKE 17:54
We

DAVID 17:54
honey.

MIKE 17:54
are totally,

DAVID 17:56
totally. So cool.

MIKE 17:57
Yeah.

DAVID 17:58
As we continue, they fanciify and, again, the plot sensitive thing, we're gonna get into plot sensitive stuff. We'll be some spoiler alerts.

MIKE 18:08
Yes.

DAVID 18:08
Because there's a moment that makes me really, really love this

MIKE 18:13
Okay. Spoiler alert. Do-do-do. I don't know. I just made that up.

DAVID 18:17
I loved it. That was the sound that you didn't put it in post, you put it in the present. I love it. So, I don't know. There's just so many fun moments when they go- they decide to go out to have a very fancy dinner, and it's a basic diner. And they have the entrance. We're all for them. We're standing in the entrance way, and it is an entrance. I mean, you

MIKE 18:36
It

DAVID 18:37
can hear

MIKE 18:37
is.

DAVID 18:37
it. You can see it. You can taste it. It's just awesome. Everyone else is kinda eating pizza going, "Wow!" And the funny thing text says they probably think we're movie stars. And they're all looking like, "What is that?"

MIKE 18:52
I

DAVID 18:53
don't think they think they're movie stars, but fancy an He does, and therefore they are.

MIKE 18:58
However, there is another girl with a crown.

DAVID 19:01
Yes.

MIKE 19:01
And she actually does look like she thinks they're movie stars, or fancy stars, of some sort.

DAVID 19:08
Yes. Who are right? And I forgot something.

MIKE 19:10
Tell me more.

DAVID 19:11
Um, when she gets the idea to do the class to teach her family how to be fancy, it's way way back.

MIKE 19:18
Yes.

DAVID 19:18
They're in the grocery store, and she sees a sign saying, "Ready to rumble? Call. Bob's ballroom dancing." And that's what gives her the idea.

MIKE 19:25
Yes.

DAVID 19:26
Well, the grocery check out, lady. Actually, fairly fancy. She's wearing pink, and she has frilly lace around the collar of her pink thing dress, blouse, whatever it

MIKE 19:39
is.

DAVID 19:41
She has jewelry and makeup. I mean, she's actually quite- I'm like, "This woman, she's a kindred spirit to Nancy." Also, she's the employee of the month. Did you notice

MIKE 19:51
I

DAVID 19:51
that?

MIKE 19:51
did notice that.

DAVID 19:52
I just noticed that.

MIKE 19:54
Yes.

DAVID 19:54
There's other fancy clothing on it in her picture on the wall as employed the month.

MIKE 19:58
Oh,

DAVID 19:59
So,

MIKE 19:59
of course.

DAVID 19:59
the point-

MIKE 20:00
Can't just be fancy part-time.

DAVID 20:01
No, it's a full-time as Nancy would be the first to tell you.

MIKE 20:05
Absolutely.

DAVID 20:05
Second and the third and the fifth. the point is there are some people around her, but there are also some fancy people sprinkled in like the employee at the grocery store.

MIKE 20:16
Absolutely.

DAVID 20:17
So as we move on, they really enjoy the dinner and they're being fancy. The family is drinking things with their pinky sticking up there. Totally on board being fancy.

MIKE 20:29
They are all about the fancy.

DAVID 20:31
All about it. And it's awesome.

MIKE 20:33
I think I've used the word fancy this many times and 30 minutes, ever in my

DAVID 20:39
Ever.

MIKE 20:40
Like the rest life. Life. I've never said the word fancy this many times. It's fancy.

DAVID 20:46
I would like to say the same thing. However, I don't have specific memories. But I guarantee you, I way overused the word fancy when I was reading this with like,

MIKE 20:54
probably.

DAVID 20:56
And as a guy who speaks French, oh

MIKE 20:58
boy. Oh boy.

DAVID 20:59
Bafé Merci. Never.

MIKE 21:04
Oh.

DAVID 21:05
Are you revving

MIKE 21:07
motor?

DAVID 21:07
up your

MIKE 21:08
Marcel Marcel.

DAVID 21:09
Where's

MIKE 21:10
Where?

DAVID 21:10
Jacque?

MIKE 21:11
Cousteau.

DAVID 21:14
What happened to that man? Oh, don't worry. He spoke French.

MIKE 21:19
I don't know what happened. I think

DAVID 21:24
it's

MIKE 21:25
famous.

DAVID 21:25
a very

MIKE 21:25
A

DAVID 21:27
very famous Steve Martin routine.

MIKE 21:29
Oh, okay.

DAVID 21:30
Is that not okay? Oh, no, he's fine. He's speaking for...

MIKE 21:39
Oh, that's why I think it's so funny because it's Steve Martin. I love Steve

DAVID 21:42
Yes.

MIKE 21:42
Martin.

DAVID 21:43
Oh. The best. Anyway, so fancy Nancy gets a very, very, very, very fancy fruit fruit up ice cream for her entire family, for them on a tray. This is the spoiler alert.

MIKE 21:56
We could move on and not ever say it. But then

DAVID 22:01
She trips and falls and everything spectacularly spills all over the restaurant. She doesn't feel fancy anymore. She's crying the jigg is up and she wants to go Me too. Her family consoles JoJo picked up Nancy's crown in all of this for Tiara and is handing it to her as her cute little way of trying to help console her big sister. And even cuter when they get home, they're undressed, defantified, and JoJo is giving Nancy a big hug with girls and sisters who love each other. I just tried to go like, okay, I'm going to start melting like the ice cream. Are you getting... You getting some allergy...

Okay, good, yeah. I'm glad you scheduled our podcast for recordings based on your Mowing schedule there in Chicago land.

There's

MIKE 23:03
Do-do-do. go ahead.

home. Me too.

Yep.

Yeah. Excuse me. Yeah, there's a it's summer here and there's a lot of grass being cut although it's not Monday. So we don't have to worry about it this time. I think

Absolutely.

DAVID 23:03
a guarantee I'll never be my alum will not be mowed while I'm recording with you because I'm on my yard. But...

MIKE 23:09
Yeah.

DAVID 23:09
We've neighbors. Anyway, okay this is the real if you've not read the book and you want the final thing is the I love you, they just, they tuck her in. I love you and she says and all I say back is I love you because there isn't a fancy or a better way of saying no. And I just

MIKE 23:29
pause while we're... Both getting all teary eyed

DAVID 23:32
Sorry.

MIKE 23:32
because we're like that.

DAVID 23:35
I'm not sorry at all.

MIKE 23:36
No, it's really cute. Yeah,

DAVID 23:38
And now that I think about it, it didn't, I didn't go from not liking the book to loving it. It was a spectrum. I liked it more and more and then at this end I just loved it and thought okay this is going to be one of my time of my girl's books and sure enough, it is.

MIKE 23:55
Absolutely. I like it too.

DAVID 23:57
Yay.

MIKE 23:58
Yay. The one that we had I actually found it was... fancy, Nancy, heart to heart, not at all reminiscent of the show, heart to heart.

If anyone actually remembers that,

I don't know why I do. But, um, similarly, as cute, but not with the similar ending of I love you.

DAVID 24:23
Oh,

MIKE 24:24
although still cute because she something nice for

DAVID 24:28
Oh.

MIKE 24:28
Just JoJo, it's cool.

DAVID 24:30
JoJo, we love JoJo.

MIKE 24:31
Yeah.

DAVID 24:32
Well, this would be simply called fancy Nancy. So I think without research, we can realize this is the first word.

MIKE 24:38
Absolutely. That's how I knew that it wasn't the one that I had because we said, let's read the book, "Fancy Nancy," not "Fancy Nancy, heart to heart," or, "Fancy, I wish I knew the theme song from show,

DAVID 24:52
so it was funny. I have to mention it now. I've been Hang on

MIKE 24:54
it.

DAVID 24:54
it.

MIKE 24:55
Okay.

DAVID 24:55
Heart to heart was one of my favorite shows growing up because...

MIKE 24:59
Don't lean

DAVID 25:00
Sorry.

MIKE 25:00
that.

DAVID 25:03
Okay.

MIKE 25:03
Should I cut that in post?

DAVID 25:05
Yes, but you don't have to, watch this. Are you ready?

MIKE 25:08
Go for

DAVID 25:08
it. Are you sitting now?

MIKE 25:10
Nope.

DAVID 25:10
Okay. I'm glad you mentioned it hard to heart because I wanted to bring it up because growing up it was one of my favorite shows and the reason why is my brother Michael and I were not allowed to watch tv when we were growing up on school nights.

MIKE 25:22
Yes.

DAVID 25:23
Except we could watch specials, and specials were defined as when we were younger the Charlie Brown stuff,

MIKE 25:29
Absolutely.

DAVID 25:29
and of course educational stuff like Nova and National Geographic Specials, but Michael and I did pretty well in school. So my dad started to liberalize the definition of special, and he liked Hart to Hart for some reason. Hard to heart became a special.

MIKE 25:44
That is, I love that.

DAVID 25:46
Yeah. So Michael and dad and I would watch Hart to Hart a lot. So I mean, and for those of you who don't know, which is probably the vast majority of you, even the people our age might not remember, it was a prime time show in the 80s. And it was with Robert Wagner. Right. As one of the Harts, and then, I forgot her name, Stephanie something. They were a married couple. Their last name was Hart, and they would like solve crimes and stuff.

MIKE 26:13
Right.

DAVID 26:13
So it was an hour drama, crime thing, but it was fairly lighthearted if I recall.

MIKE 26:19
Stephanie Powers. That would be

DAVID 26:20
Stephanie Powers.

MIKE 26:22
I had to wait for a view to pause for a second, so I could get that in there.

DAVID 26:25
I need to pause for a second more often so you can get stuff in.

MIKE 26:28
Oh no, you were, you know, I just you, I actually, I lie.

DAVID 26:35
You lie, liar.

MIKE 26:36
It took me a second to Google it.

DAVID 26:40
And Mike, I was talking endlessly to give you time to do that.

MIKE 26:46
Exactly. So why did you do that? You made me admit to my downfall that I could not remember her last night, but

DAVID 26:54
I blew our coffers.

MIKE 26:56
It's David's fault. Sorry Stephanie.

DAVID 26:58
Oh Stephanie doesn't mind at all. She's probably still getting residuals from Hart to Hart, and then

MIKE 27:02
she'll power through it.

DAVID 27:03
See what you did there. and I'm realizing this is this has become as the 80s retro thing as our theme in this one between the the

MIKE 27:14
Yeah,

DAVID 27:15
go-go's and Hart to Hart.

MIKE 27:16
Yes, this is the 80s episode.

DAVID 27:18
It's the 80s episode.

MIKE 27:19
We'll have to figure out what's next and talk about another decade. Now we didn't really get into the decades and in Louis Sachars book about crazy elementary schools

DAVID 27:34
I guess we didn't. You're right.

MIKE 27:35
now,

DAVID 27:35
And that was written in the 70s and of course you and I were kind of that age

MIKE 27:38
right?

DAVID 27:38
in the 70s.

MIKE 27:39
And we would have remembered some of the 70s. So yeah, I guess. Maybe we'll go back and revisit that visit that, like when I was at the, I went to get an oil change at the dealer for my car obviously. I was

DAVID 27:55
hoping it was just

MIKE 27:55
car,

DAVID 27:55
for your I need an oil change because you know, I had some Mexican food.

MIKE 28:00
I'm a little low. Can you just IV it right in?

DAVID 28:04
Did you synthetic or

MIKE 28:07
totally?

DAVID 28:07
Oh,

MIKE 28:09
but I went into the waiting room and there was this little tiny room off to the side with the TV and it like the kids room but there's nobody in there. So I should totally just go in there and I went in and the first, first thing I saw was a bookshelf with books and a Richard Scary book.

DAVID 28:27
Oh, that is awesome.

MIKE 28:29
I was just like, oh my god, that is so cool. So I sat there and read it and it was all about cars and trucks oddly.

DAVID 28:36
Oh, funnily enough, and

MIKE 28:37
you know, because there's not enough cars and trucks books by Richard, scary.

DAVID 28:43
Exactly. But talking of origin stories, I wonder like did the owner like it? Did one of that, like I wonder how that book got there.

MIKE 28:51
It was a set of four. So there were, I don't remember what the other ones. I didn't take pictures of them because they were not as important to me as Richard, scary cars and trucks. But there were a few other books as well. I do not know why they were there probably because this was set up like the kids room. So let's just grab some four packs of books and put them on the shelf. So little kids have something to read while they're sitting here waiting with their parents bored out of their skulls.

DAVID 29:22
I love

MIKE 29:23
Kind of like me, so I read one too.

DAVID 29:26
Oh, that's awesome.

MIKE 29:28
And it

DAVID 29:28
I

MIKE 29:28
was,

DAVID 29:28
love it.

MIKE 29:28
it was fun because this one actually had Goldbug and I had not read a Goldbug. But this is, has nothing to do with fancy Nancy.

DAVID 29:35
It doesn't?

MIKE 29:36
no, let's get back to that.

DAVID 29:37
My,

MIKE 29:37
Sorry, my

DAVID 29:38
Yeah,

MIKE 29:38
bad.

DAVID 29:38
it's going to be fancy and Nancy. So basically I just absolutely love the book. It is super fun and it is touching at the end, which makes it even more fun when you read it again with the touching in

MIKE 29:48
Yes.

DAVID 29:48
mind.

MIKE 29:49
Yes.

DAVID 29:50
But I also have to admit though, since I discovered her room before she made it fancy, I do like her unfancyed room.

MIKE 30:00
Of

DAVID 30:01
Because I'm

MIKE 30:01
course.

DAVID 30:01
like, this is what I allegedly strive to have in my house with my girls in all of our rooms and I'll let you know when that happens. In other words, I won't.

MIKE 30:12
Well, we may still be doing the podcast then, you know.

DAVID 30:14
That's true. Okay.

MIKE 30:16
They would probably be all in college or older. And mine will get there first. So I'll let you know how that goes for us. And then we'll have an idea of how it'll go for you.

DAVID 30:29
So I have an idea of how it's going to go.

MIKE 30:31
Yeah, me too.

DAVID 30:32
In addition to we will be talking about how both of us have uncluttered houses will be in season 99 episodes 40. I'll say let me put my dentures in first.

MIKE 30:45
Yep,

DAVID 30:46
because my grandkids came in with a giant truck.

MIKE 30:49
Sorry. What did you see?

DAVID 30:52
Hey,

MIKE 30:53
hey,

DAVID 30:54
hi, I'm recording.

MIKE 30:55
It's high the soup.

DAVID 30:56
Yeah, but I went to my friend Monica's house yesterday.

MIKE 31:00
Different Monica

DAVID 31:01
in Dallas. Different Monica, but you might you do know the Monica I'm talking about.

MIKE 31:05
Yes, I do know Monica

DAVID 31:06
and Monica and her husband bought Monica's parents house that she grew up

MIKE 31:10
in. Yeah,

DAVID 31:11
and I was there yesterday with my girls. And everything was uncluttered, the kitchen, the dining room, the living room. And I said, how do you keep your house so uncluttered? And she said, only we live here now. They're all gone. Said, oh, okay, cool. And then she goes, follow me. And she showed me a small office off of the kitchen. Then there's a bigger one, then there's a back room, all of which were stacked with stuff. And I even saw shoe boxes with years label. They didn't have to ask, oh, those are the pictures because she still come from the era where you take pictures and get them developed.

MIKE 31:47
And then you put them in a shoe box.

DAVID 31:49
You put them in shoe box, because

MIKE 31:50
Absolute.

DAVID 31:50
now we take pictures and just leave them on our phone and in the cloud, but.

MIKE 31:54
And there's no shoe box to well, actually, I do have I've got shoe boxes in my office here where I record from. And they have some of my old phones. Which do still have pictures on them that I may or may not have transferred over to my computer. So I keep them in a shoe box just in case with a charger so that I can. Take the pictures off of them when I get a chance, which, you know, will probably be around the time that Monica gets rid of her shoe boxes. So.

DAVID 32:27
Okay, I'll alert all the Monicas, and everyone. So anyway, love the book as usual,

MIKE 32:33
Very fun.

DAVID 32:34
very fun and very touching. Great art. Great details. Way too much for us to go into.

MIKE 32:40
But

DAVID 32:41
But.

MIKE 32:41
we did.

DAVID 32:44
Exactly. That's it for Fancy Nancy. And this is the time in our show now where we talk about what we might do next. so here, here, thematically, is what I was thinking of for the future, for next books. There are a whole lot of different books that are really versions of something bigger. That's a great way for a child to get into it. And, one thing I talked about before is the Who Was Books. They're great ways to- Quickly about someone, and of course, there's one about Laura Ingalls Wilder.

MIKE 33:13
Oh, we should totally do that next.

DAVID 33:16
Yeah. Okay, I love it.

MIKE 33:18
Okay, And in the meantime, if you have any questions or concerns about our show, as David's holding up book, to show you all, that he has if you have any questions, concerns, thoughts, anything that you want to talk to us about hop online and send us an email at

DAVID 33:40
dadsonebooks@gmail. com.

MIKE 33:42
Whoa, that's cool. We have our own email address, and we still only have one email that we've received. So please jump in there let us know if you have any thoughts.

DAVID 33:54
We'd love to hear from you.

MIKE 33:56
mom, you don't have to again, but thanks for the first one. Again. So well, thanks again. I'm Mike Walker.

DAVID 34:06
I'm David Patrick.

MIKE 34:07
home and we are

DAVID 34:08
Dad's

MIKE 34:09
dads on books

DAVID 51:44
for Fancy Nancy. And this is the time in our show now where we talk about what we might do next.

MIKE 51:49
And what might we do next because I am going to be out of town for a couple of days or so. So I won't be back to record for over a week. Probably week and a half. So maybe we should pick something longer. And I have some ideas. But do you have any ideas for a longer one?

DAVID 52:16
For longer. So I didn't know you were going to be out of town. So the ideas I wrote down

MIKE 52:21
Oh,

DAVID 52:21
are longer. But they also might be ideas for later. They were just

MIKE 52:26
okay.

DAVID 52:26
general ideas. If I look at my my magical shelf of longer books, I don't have a lot.

Okay. But

MIKE 52:36
well then why don't we not worry about that?

DAVID 52:39
Okay.

MIKE 52:39
Let's think about the longer book because the longer book that I do want to read I have to check with one of my children to find out if she would come on the show with me to do. A little bit of talking about my side of the mountain, which is one of the books that really kind of was the impetus for us to do this show.

DAVID 53:05
Oh, yeah.

MIKE 53:08
Because this was the first book that I read because she was reading at that school. And I and she described it to me and I was like, that sounds kind of can I borrow that when you're done? And she's like, okay, sure. So I read it and thought it was very cool. So I would love to have her on and have some opinions of hers if she's up for

DAVID 53:33
it. Excellent.

MIKE 53:34
And if not, then why don't we pick a separate book?

DAVID 53:37
I already have.

MIKE 53:38
Okay.

DAVID 53:39
So as you were saying that I thought, wait a second. Out of the dust. That is that's the book that I was reading like two years ago because Delaney read it for her summer reading. And that was the real genesis of this podcast because I told you how amazing it was. And you remembered that and thought, hey, we should do a podcast about us talking about the books that we've read because of our kids. So maybe this is the time to read that.

MIKE 54:05
That could be, and I find that, find it not really that odd that you bring it up, but, uhm, it was very funny, because I'm holding a picture up to David right now, uh, of my trip to Barnes & Noble's.

And, uh, all of the things came together to, uh, be one thing,

DAVID 54:40
I

MIKE 54:40
so.

DAVID 54:41
love it. Well, and looks like that's not the book, but that's a series of some sort, the one

MIKE 54:45
up.

DAVID 54:45
you just held

MIKE 54:45
Oh, is it?

DAVID 54:47
What's it called?

MIKE 54:48
It's called The Dust Bowl.

DAVID 54:49
Yeah, I know the book I'm talking about is Out of the Dust

MIKE 54:52
Oh, Out of the Dust!

DAVID 54:53
by

MIKE 54:53
So

DAVID 54:54
Karen-

MIKE 54:54
similar,

DAVID 54:55
Yes!

MIKE 54:55
similar, but different, so.

DAVID 54:57
But that also looks like it might be, uh, a, so here, here, thematically, is what I was thinking of for the future, for next books. There are a whole lot of different books that are really good versions of something bigger. That's a great way for a child to get into it. And, one thing I talked about before is the Who Was Books. They're great ways

MIKE 55:19
Yes.

DAVID 55:19
to- Quickly about someone, and of course, there's one about Laura Ingalls Wilder.

MIKE 55:24
Oh, we should totally do that next.

DAVID 55:27
Yeah? Yeah. Okay, I love it. And that's not a very long book, but it's longer, so that's actually perfect for us to do. I love that

MIKE 55:38
Okay, I love it. And in the meantime, you know, if you have any questions or concerns about our show, as David's holding up the book, to show you all, that he has it, um, if you have any questions, concerns, thoughts, anything that you want to talk to us about suggestions, hop online and send us an email at

DAVID 56:08
dadsonebooks@gmail. com.

MIKE 56:10
Whoa, that's cool. We have our own email address, and we still only have one email that we've received. So please jump in there and let us know if you have any thoughts.

DAVID 56:23
We'd love to hear from you.

MIKE 56:24
And mom, you don't have to again, but thanks for the first one. Again. So well, thanks again. I'm Mike Walker.

DAVID 56:36
I'm David Patrick.

MIKE 56:37
home and we are

DAVID 56:38
Dad's

MIKE 56:39
dads on books

books.

DAVID 56:51
Cool.

MIKE 56:52
I'm gonna stop this recording here.